Crassus
7:59 Fri Feb 4
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arce
Oh yeah, no doubt about it
But he is a bright enough bloke to know he has enemies and he has presented a suicide pass across the six yard line
Should have 'fessed up and it would be over by now, it's the wriggling that has encouraged any aggrieved party to pile in - hence the wobbling within
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Mike Oxsaw
7:21 Fri Feb 4
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collyrob 5:55 Fri Feb 4
Bring it on, you English shirtlifter. We need a good witch-hunt on here and you're the ideal fat slob to start it.
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Leavemyarcelona
7:15 Fri Feb 4
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Crassus
I agree he has lost credibility now but don't you think it is a bit sus ever since 2016 they have been try to bring him down. His MPs are only being backed into a corner because of the baying mob.
I don't think he is deflecting anything, he is only doing what any other PM or MP would do.
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Leavemyarcelona
6:57 Fri Feb 4
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bruuuno
Spot on
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Crassus
6:40 Fri Feb 4
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Taking the partisan nature of political allegiance aside, I really don’t see this being too great a deal to the masses who broadly, to a lessor or greater degree, transgressed along the way
Having a few beers during stressful times with those within his working sphere - yeah not a particularly good look but whatever for a week or so’s metrocentric whinage. Just put your hands up, bollock dropped take the heat out of it and move on
The issue I see in all this is his subsequent wriggling and the attritional fall out gleefully embraced by his enemies, which by his own mishandling, has allowed this to roll and gather it’s own head of steam which doubtless will see his downfall. Pointing at that SNP MP travelling with COVID, Starmer having a beer or any other opposition failing is now seen as mere deflection
It’s an issue of credibility now, his, his parties and his MP’s who have had to take the grief from their constituencies justifying questionable lock downs and now answer for their leader
A few beers have become a stalking horse issue around which HS2, Brexit, Afghanistan, Carrie, Green Agenda, energy crisis and not least economic demons now circle - open season …..
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threesixty
6:38 Fri Feb 4
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"Surf - if you introduce a law, announce the law, demand people adhere to the law and then you yourself break it then it is something more than shabby than you or I getting a parking ticket. Its a ridiculous analogy."
People also need to remember what these laws were for.
It was to prevent people inadvertently spreading a diseases that was killing people where we had no vaccine and didnt know that much about it. One of the people at the party could easily contract Covid and give it to someone who had to care for their elderly mother who then dies.
So the law was incredibly important and only worked if EVERYONE did it. And the people who were charged with convincing everyone to do it so we could stop unnecessary deaths were the very people partying!
The only comparison this has with a parking ticket is that they are both monetary fines. Otherwise its a completely another level of offence.
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Fo the Communist
5:55 Fri Feb 4
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Surf - if you introduce a law, announce the law, demand people adhere to the law and then you yourself break it then it is something more than shabby than you or I getting a parking ticket. Its a ridiculous analogy.
I have not said, Gardiner's 'bung' was fine and dandy. A straw man if ever there was one.
Johnson's mistake was - in his desperation - accusing Starmer of personally not prosecuting Savile. Listen to what he said. Starmer had apologised for failings on behalf of the organisation he headed. You are gleefully swallowing Johnson's cum-lately excuses.
Scurrilous was among the words used by Johnson's own head of policy weren't they? Given the roles she has performed over the years and her relationship with her erstwhile boss I am inclined to heed them.
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collyrob
5:55 Fri Feb 4
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“YOU simply don't know what I know about you, no matter how much you shout that "I KNOW fuck all about you". YOU prove I don't.”
Another mental quote from the sites whack job.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
5:43 Fri Feb 4
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Fo
So, a parking offence is pretty shabby, but a half million pound bung to a senior Labour politician from an enemy of this country is fine and dandy so long as it is just about within the law.
And accusing a man who apologised for not prosecuting Savile of not prosecuting Savile is 'scurrilous'.
Interesting times.
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Fo the Communist
5:22 Fri Feb 4
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Surf
As I have said, one act is against the law and the transgressor (most likely) is the very person who instrumental in deciding and announcing the law. That's pretty shabby.
As stated, the other act, while not a good look, was within the law and the concern of someone who is not part of the UK Executive.
Incidentally the UK Executive while under a recent Tory administration also saw fit to bestow an honour on Ms Lee. It wasn't just Labour she was cosying up to her however inconvenient that is to your argument.
I suspect your principal aim in raising these dubious arguments is less about defending Johnson and more about trying to wind up people on the left. Am I right?
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Wils
5:17 Fri Feb 4
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threesixty 4:23 Fri Feb 4
"you seem to feel its ok to break the law in order to do what ever mandate a government feels it has been given by the public."
No I don't think it's ok. It's a sorry state of affairs. But I also think it's consequential and the source of the problem is extrinsic to parliament. So it's no good pointing the finger at the crop of MPs and blaming them.
To fix it I would suggest our institutions need to be more democratic and representative of the views found in the wider population and not those of the middle-class urban professionals. A higher standard in our political class would follow suite.
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bruuuno
4:54 Fri Feb 4
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BORIS IS BOSS
The more hysterical people get over him the more I like him.
Go on boris son!
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Side of Ham
4:45 Fri Feb 4
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Exactly Mike, he tries to come across as this bloke who left the UK behind on moral grounds but instead comes across as this bitter woman scorned type character.....otherwise known as a numpty.....
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Mike Oxsaw
4:39 Fri Feb 4
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Side of Ham 4:29 Fri Feb 4
Pickled deliberately CHOSE to put himself in a position where he could not vote in matters of UK politics.
I didn't choose for him and I'm sure you didn't chose for him.
He made the grown-up, intelligent, educated choice all by himself (biscuits are available in the foyer after this thread).
He seems now to be angry at outcomes in UK politics that he deliberately excluded himself from having any influence over.
A strange stance given that whatever he says has absolutely zero impact on either this site's users or the world in general.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
4:30 Fri Feb 4
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Fo
Breaking Covid regulations is punishable by a fixed penalty notice. The same as a parking fine, in fact. Are you suggesting that wittingly or unwittingly committing a parking offence level misdemeanour is worse than taking a half million pound bung?
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Side of Ham
4:29 Fri Feb 4
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Pickle, how you can come bouncing on here I don't know.....
A) You are in Poland and not allowed to vote
B) You've stated on here you prefer Paedo's over politicians on another political debate thread.
C) Because of the above you have agendas (you call them dossiers) on certain posters and give them cringeworthy nicknames that are not fit for purpose.
Your view on politics and indeed life is far removed from those you try badly to bang heads with on here......maybe it's the difference in neck length?
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threesixty
4:23 Fri Feb 4
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Wils 2:29 Fri Feb 4
You seem to feel its ok to break the law in order to do what ever mandate a government feels it has been given by the public.
Said every dictatorship in existence!
Not saying the UK is at the level, but if we dont start nipping this in the bud thats where it all goes.
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Hammer and Pickle
4:05 Fri Feb 4
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So it is an attribute of maturity to accept lying as a standard of political behaviour in a totally incompetent nincompoop of a PM because other politicians have been known to lie as well.
I fear your stunted psychological and moral condition indicates you and maturity passed like ships in the night, O'Cone.
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Fo the Communist
3:53 Fri Feb 4
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Johnson.
Both Starmer and Gardiner acted within the law (however dodgy it looked in Gardiner's case).
Patterson and (most likely) the PM did not. That's the crucial difference.
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Side of Ham
3:52 Fri Feb 4
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It how you should all be Fo so the bickering can stop and better ways to vote in politics and who for can be found.....I'm sick of no one representing any of us one here red or a blue......
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Far Cough
3:52 Fri Feb 4
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A PM who likes to party and maybe with a bit on the side or a PM who says It's wrong to say 'only women have a cervix'
Tough choice....NOT
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